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DER RUDY shall save us all!

At least he doesn't let fact and understanding get in the way of a torrent of nationalistic bullshit.

>> No.2  

Nine Eleven.

>> No.3  

Rudy cleaned up New York. Times Square was once a haven for street-level hookers, hustlers, and pimps. Now it's a haven for corporate hookers, hustlers, and pimps.

>> No.4  

>>1

DER "nine-eleven" RUDY shall save us all from 9-11!

At least 9/11 he doesn't let fact, 9-11 and understanding get in the way of 9-11ing a torrent of nationalistic bullshit.

9/11.

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fixed it for you.

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>> No.6  

Rudy is out of the election.

>> No.7  

>>6
Bush did 9/11. It was his equivalent to the Reichstag fire in 1934 that led to Hitler's rise to power. Only difference was that Hitler, as evil as he was, was smarter than a 5th grader.

>> No.8  

>>7

Conspiracy Theorists did 9/11, actually. Everything else they banged on about was going stale, and so they needed something else to justify their existences. CTists are basically the ultimate Attention Whores.

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>> No.10  

>>7
Do you possess any evidence proving Hitler was responsible for the Reichstag fire?

>> No.11  

>>10

>Do you possess any evidence proving Hitler was responsible for the Reichstag fire?

He was to blame for everything that was wrong with the world since he started having ideas above his station, up to him becoming an hero. That's all the evidence you need.

>> No.12  

Actually, Reichspresident and War Ubergeneral Hindenburg is the asshole. First he invents the "stabbed in the back" legend to save his own ass, then he invests the "little bohemian corporal" with chancellor powers being a bit senile and all that. The Reichtagsbrand (which was NOT a Nazi setup) just railroaded the Nazi power takeover.

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>>12

So, who can better set an raging fire to a large building? A single, disturbed Dutch red who's probably had his head beaten so much by brownshirts with truncheons he can't put together two coherent thoughts at his trial, as the Nazis said, or a squad of state agents who were unmonitored, unregulated, and had access to the supplies necessary.

While I seriously, seriously doubt Bush was responsible for 9/11, it's pretty obvious who started the Reichstag Fire--and it did stand empty for the entirety of the war. They're too different things.

Plus, that would involve assuming Bush could mastermind something that elaborate and complex. Bullshit.

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Robert O. Paxton, in "The Anatomy of Fascism" writes:

"It was long believed that the Nazis themselves set the fire and them framed a dim-witted Dutch communist youth found on the premises, Marinus van der Lubbe, in order to persuade the public to accept extreme anticommunist measures. Today most historians believe that van der Lubbe really lit the fire, and that Hitler and his associates, taken by surprise, really believed a communist coup had begun. Enough Germans shared their panic to give the Nazis almost unlimited leeway."

Cited references: Fritz Tobias, Der Reichtagsbrand: Legende und Wirklichkeit (Rastatt-Baden: Grote, 1962) and Hans Mommsen: "The Reichstag Fire and its Political Consequences," in Holborn, ed., Republic to Reich: The Making of the Nazi Revolution (New York: Pantheon, 1972), pp. 129-222 and in Henry A. Turner, Junior, Jr ., Nazism and The Third Reich, (New York: Franklin Watts, 1972), pp. 109-50 (orig. pub., 1964).

>> No.15  

I really wanted Giuliani to win the nomination.

Pro-choice, pro-gay Republican = DO WANT

>> No.16  

>>13Plus, that would involve assuming Bush could mastermind something that elaborate and complex.

Clearly he couldn't. But the people behind him (um... his dad maybe?) are a lot smarter than he is obviously.

>> No.17  
>DER RUDY shall shave us all!

fixxed

>> No.18  

THE first documentary evidence has emerged to support the view that the Nazis started the 1933 Reichstag fire that Hitler used as a pretext to establish a dictatorship.

While historians have agreed that there is no substance to Nazi claims that German Communists were to blame for the blaze, there has also been a lack of evidence to back the widely held belief that Hitler's supporters burnt down the parliament building in Berlin.

After poring over 50,000 pages of hitherto unexamined documents from former East German and Soviet archives, four leading German historians have now concluded that the fire was a Nazi plot. Marinus van der Lubbe, 24, a pro-Communist Dutch labourer, was beheaded by the Nazis after admitting that he started the blaze alone to encourage a workers' uprising.

From: Telegraph.co.uk, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/1310995/Historians-find-%27proof%27-that-Nazis-burnt-Reichstag.html

>> No.19  

>>18
"yeah i once read somewhere that a jailed thief who died 75 years ago said something so it must be true." sorry, but that doesnt count as evidence, at least not to any rational person. maybe alex jones or jim marrs.

>> No.20  

>>18

>German historians

Germany is not a reliable source of 1933-1945 history.
They can put people in jail for saying anything that doesn't agree with the "Hitler killed 6 million jews and was a terrible monster" theory.

>> No.21  

Giuliani is my dream candidate. Pro-choice, pro-gay Republican = DO WANT.



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